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've had a rifle and a gun since i was a boy. i'm a lifelong member of the n.r.a. i just came back from a hunting trip. but ron, he said, you go back to washington and you get your colleagues to do something about the assault weapons and the extended clips and that is what i'm here to do along with my colleagues and we look forward to reaching a cross the aisle and having a similar dwarfing of republican members of -- gathering of republican members of congress to take care of this problem once and for all. >> i want to thank you for your outstanding leadership on this matter. i'm a discharged veteran who earned an expert marksmanship medal while i was in the service. i'm also the parent of a son murdered on the south side of the city of chicago. and i am a pastor of my church. i am here to support hr 308. the large capacity ammunition device act which i have been a co-sponsor of since march of last year. hearing reports that there are 264,000 -- rifles manufactured each year in the u.s. and of those a 5,443 are exported overseas and 248,000 are used right here in the u.s. a bitter iron
something about the guns. the nra statement today is sadly and shamefully inadequate, calling for more guns and rejecting real action against gun violence. at a defining a historic moment for our nation demanding courageous leadership, the nra has declined to step forward as a credible and constructive partner. the proposal for more armed guards in schools may be helpful in some instances, but it falls short of the strong, serious comprehensive action needed to stop the kind of horrific tragedy that occurred last week. many police that spoke to me on that day when we take a said that the killer was so heavily armed that they doubted they could have stopped him. the american people are demanding real change. the nra proposal fails to offer any real protection from violence. members in connecticut and around the country are writing and calling me to say that the nra does not speak for them. it was a call for action. the nra has failed to answer the call. we need to do something about these guns, about the assault weapons, the kind that was used in the new town tragedy. i am very proud to join
're going to begin the first 45 minutes of the program to talk about the nra's response to the shootings. they broke their silence yesterday with executive director and vice president wayne. we'll talk more about what he had to say. but we want to get you involved in the conversation. so the numbers on your screen. guest: we also have a special line this morning for members of the n.r.a. (202)585-3883 this is for n.r.a. members. you can also reach out to us at twitter.com/cspanwj and f.s.a. -- and facebook at and the headline face of the n.r.a. mountains a forceful defense advocate of armed school guards excels at lighting fires under supporters and critics alike. guest: we'll get back to more of the newspaper articles this morning regarding the n.r.a.'s response to the newtown shootings. first up leslie from wash burn, maine. leslie, go ahead. caller: yes. i'm originally from northern maine and moved here from northern new york and i personally had a second-grade and third-grade teacher killed from mentally unstable students. one used a knife and one beat a teacher. i personally believe
since this massacre in newtown. the nra will be irrelevant because it cannot be a credible and constructive participant in this debate if they say the only acceptable solution is armed guards in schools. better school security may be part of the solution, but it also has to include a ban on assault weapons which have that kind of firepower that endangers everyone as well as other measures. i think the key question is going to be making america safer. that will be the challenge. ultimately, i think the ark of this debate will swing toward strong, serious proposals. the american people will not stand by idly for another newtown. >> thank you, everybody. thank you. >> next, a look at negotiations rubble around the so-called fiscal cliff on friday here in washington. first, speaker boehner's morning news conference, followed by house minority leader's nancy pelosi i. then president obama friday afternoon from the white house. issue is not whether health care will be stigmatized or condemned. we know the answer to that. the issue is how many different times can the government to
of this unspeakable crime. out of respect for the families and until the facts are known, the n.r.a. has refrained from comment. while some have tried to exploit tragedy for political gain, we have remained respectively silent. now we must speak for the safety of our nation's children. because for all the noise and anger directed at us over the past week, no one, nobody has addressed the most important pressing and immediate question we face, how do we protect our children right now, starting today n a way that we know works? the only way to answer that question is to face the truth. politicians pass laws for gun free school zones, they issue press releases bragging about them. they post signs advertising them. and in doing so, they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. how have our nation's priorities gotten so far out of order? think about it. we care about our money so we protect our banks with armed guards. american airports, office buildings, power plants, courthouses, even sports stadiums are all protected by armed
, and allow people to have them with extended clips is laughable. i expect members of the nra are going to continue to expel this mischaracterization of what these weapons are for. host: frank is from oklahoma. we want to show the front page of "usa today" this morning. caller: i do not think the laws need to be changed. i have a 380 that i carry as a concealed weapon. it is about the same size as a 9 millimeter. host: so it is a handgun. caller: i carry it as a concealed weapon and i am licensed to do that. i have a home defense weapon that i use, a model 191145 caliber semi-automatic. host: do you carry that into a weapon with you at all times? why? caller: yes. physicallyow and limited as far as my own self defense is concerned. there is a lot of crime in our neighborhood. the helicopter's flight over here all the time chasing criminals. i would like to mention something about the sandy hook incident. i found it ironic that these people were meeting in the school for all this prayer. when prayer's outlawed in school. also, they had the high priest of abortion there giving his appeal
today, we will have live coverage here on the cspan accords. while we wait for the nra to get under way, we spoke earlier with a republican member of congress to get his thoughts on last night's action and the house on fiscal cliff legislation. > >> what happened inside the caucus last night at 7:30. >> it was about the short as one i have ever seen. john boehner said he did not have the vote and we passed the bill, two bills that harry reid has been sitting on and the senate. he said he is available to negotiate. mr. kantor said we would be called back within 48 hours notice and see you after christmas. that's all it was. host: are they negotiate from a position of strength? guest: the speaker has been negotiating as much as he can -- i think the president has not been dealing in good and faith and not negotiating at all. he gave us a plan that was his budget that was voted on in the senate, 99-0 against his budget and in the house, he gets zero votes for it also. that is what the president put on the table. i don't think he has been negotiating in good faith. we need to find solutions
to reach a solution. that is why we are hopeful that something can happen. >> the nra press conference -- >> we will come back to that. >> do you believe there are 122 republicans who are willing to vote for a deal that democrats and the president can back? and what other concessions are democrats in the house willing to put on the table? >> in return for what? >> 120 republicans. >> the package is the package. it is not about us. it is what it means to the great middle class. when we did the much talked about iraq vote, there were 86 democrats, over 140 democrats voting against. that is 60% of my caucus against what i brought to the floor. 120 is not the number. the number is, what does it mean to middle income families? >> the president has already met the republicans more than halfway. i think people who have been following these negotiations recognize the president has already moved remarkably over a short time. remember that he originally proposed a revenue of 1.6 trillion dollars. people who have been following the conversation now that is less revenue than proposed by the bipart
is this report about what is ahead in terms of the gun control fight. we heard from the nra friday. let me read you a few sentences -- that was nearly 20 years ago in 1993. we will hear from that testimony in a couple of minutes. we want to get your calls and what is ahead in gun-control. roy is joining us from north carolina, the independent line, good morning. caller: it could be a bitter fight but i think some drastic action needs to be taken. it should be at least as burdensome for the gun owner as it is for a car owner. registration, insurance, testing, everything -- handguns are a big problem, too. i think it is so bad that the president should do some kind of executive order and put a moratorium on military rifles, at least, because around here in western north carolina, there are gun shops and people waiting for four hours to get to this ar-15. they say they will not take it out of the box, the majority of them. they will either have it as an investment or have it grandfathered in. this is like undetectable poison. 300 million guns that have proliferated the whole country. we have plent
with the president's position that both sides should avoid tax hikes on middle-class americans. also, nra executive said the group would not support any new gun laws in this country. good morning this monday, december 24, 2012. we will begin this morning with your thoughts on religion and politics. as a religion influence your political decisions? also send us your tweet if you go to twitter.com -- we will begin with the sunday review section of the "the new york times" yesterday. we want to get your take on this. it does religion influence your politics? with more people saying they are unaffiliated. we want to get your take. here are some comments from facebook this morning. what are your thoughts on this december 24, 2012. it does religion influence your politics? let me show you this from "the new york times" this morning. a new poll out worldwide religion shows up that one out of six follows no religion. that is worldwide. all religions outside the united states as well. the upi story. religious identity affect voter choice. and then on the 2012 election, here is the pew forum on religion and
differently. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. and here's what we know -- that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. and what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this; that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen again. and there is a big chunk of space between what t
and dangerous abusers can get guns. 70% of n.r.a. members support closing this gaping hole. military style assault weapons and high capacity magazine are readily available to civilians. we need a sustained, thoughtful national conversation about solutions to our gun violence epidemic. a conversation that's respectful of the second amendment, another thing i'd like to repete, but cognizant of the risks guns pose for families and neighborhoods like in the cases you've heard about today. none of these policies has anything to do with second amendment rights. this is the conversation the american public wants to have. the american people are coming together on this issue from blue states and red states, republicans and democrats, those who own guns, like some of the people behind me, and those who do not. cities, suburbs, small towns. we are speaking out. based on one simple idea expressed by president obama in his powerful remarks on sunday night. we are better than this. all of us here today are here to make our voices heard, the voices of those impacted by gun violence, the voices of everyo
is rushing to resurrect a bill on gun control. the most responsible set of comments came from the n.r.a. which said at the beginning when the events begin unfolding on tv let's wait for all the facts to come in. i'm calling as a former v.a. homeless outreach worker in rest l.a. one third of america's homeless are military veterans. every one of them could be off the street with mental health problems and so forth if the v.a. would process the claims that have been four and a half years delayed. we sue the v.a. in the ninth u.s. circuit court of appeals in may of last year. the government under obama and holder appealed that win before the three justices panel in may of last year to the full court which set aside our victory and veterans are now back to square one with no mental health issues from a v.a. under a former four-star army general who refuses to process our benefits claim. host: ok. here is paul on twitter. my question is how will balm care -- obama care address the shortage in our country? the "new york times," front page this morning, signaling openness to limits. senator jo
who passed away earlier this week. we will have live coverage on c- span 2. the nra with a scheduled conference. we will have live coverage of that also here on this network. robert is on the phone from oklahoma on the democrats' line. caller: good morning. thank you and t why by angels for c-span. my comment is simply about something simple, we can do better than this. the better is, we live in one place. we live in one place called the united states of america. we can agree to have balance. my final comment is, we can all be winners. what is so hard with that? i am from the east. i have lived here since 17. what is wrong with this place in terms of why we cannot do better? host: how would he respond to your own question? caller: we know about the very poor, the very rich. i love the fact i can make a lot of money, but the other side is i work as a social services person with food banks, being part of housing and homeless. we can do much better. we have to understand each other. that is my comment. host: to life for the call. from our twitter page. -- thank you for the call. front p
have a top rating for the nra. use support their proposal to put armed guards in schools it erode the will be a big debate over the next year. -- schools? >> it will be a big debate over the next year. there 1100 schools that have that have anheire ability to protect the young people and teachers. it has worked well in indiana. it is not lead to an escalation in violence. it could be a good proposal as part of what is being done. we need to take a comprehensive look at how we handle mental health. the way we treat those who are mentally ill is very different than it was even 20 years ago. some of that is because we have had medical advances that allow folks to tackle challenges of medicine. we need to ask ourselves whether other people on the streets today the would not have been there just a few short decades ago. and how are we going to do that. history shows that when you have bands, they keep guns away from folks who are law-abiding citizens or not the problem -- bans, they keep guns away from folks who are law-abiding citizens who are not the problem. we need to look at some
-- a prospect of success, but they would be here. the other then be cleared out by the nra on a boat that was not afford to come to call. >> one of my jobs as the democrat is chief deputy. we had to vote to pass sensible gun legislation through the house, but when the senate said they could not live with 60 votes, the leader made the decision that this really was not the thing to do at that time. we return to pass health care reform and other issues. as we have all said here today and all believe, this has changed when you realize that someone with one of these guns, with one of the high-capacity assault magazines can go in and kill little children and their teachers. the majority of americans agree with us on this, and that is why we will have to pass the legislation. i want to thank everyone for coming. did you have a word of wisdom to hearken back to the past? >> i think the leader in day and said the reality in congress, 2009-2011. the house took a lot of boats that never went anywhere in the senate and had to concentrate on what could did -- could get done. we save the economy.
. no questions asked. felons and domestic abusers can easily get guns. 74% of nra members support closing this whole. -- hole. we need a sustained, thoughtful, national conversation about solutions to air gun violence epidemic. demic.our gun violence episd a conversation that is respectful of the second amendment but cognizant of the risks dunst post to our families -- risks to our families and neighborhoods, like in the cases you heard about today. none of these policies have anything to do with second amendment rights. this is the conversation the american public wants to have. those who own guns and those who do not, we are speaking out, based on one simple idea. we are better than this. we are here to make our voices heard. the voices of everyone that just want to live in a safer nation. we will take that message to the halls of congress and directly to the white house. we are not going away until america's gun policies to truly change and that we do everything we can to protect our children and our communities. we have shown that we are better than this. thank you for being here and
, both the n.r.a. and those opposed to the n.r.a. never bring up the point of the second amendment that when it was written there was no such thing as an automatic or even semi-automatic weapon. these were all blocks, for god's sake. the law has to be brought up to date. so i'd like to hear your answer to both of those problems. i'll take it off the air. thank you. guest: charles, i appreciate those questions and certainly our guns and weapons of choice have changed throughout the years and our laws have changed as well. it's my understanding the state of connecticut had the type of gun laws that have been proposed and they didn't work. at the end of the day it's an individual person, it's a people problem. and changing laws doesn't necessarily change hearts. it is a cultural problem as well. that's why i don't think we need to change these laws but we need to look at an issue of society where violence has become acceptable in many avenues and simply need to turn on the television many nights to see that. the first question was about the top 2% and class warfare and what is going o
've got to do things differently. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. and here's what we know -- that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. and what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this; that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen again. and there is a big chunk
had a rifle and a gun since i was a boy. i'm a lifelong member of the n.r.a. i just came back from a hunting trip. but, ron, he said, you go back to washington and you get your colleagues to do something about the assault weapons and the extended clips. and that's what i'm here to do. along with my colleagues, and we look forward to reaching across the aisle and having a similar gathering of republican members of congress to work with us to take care of this problem once and for all. thank you. >> leader pelosi, dianne degette and carolyn mccarthy, i want to thank you for your outstanding leadership on this manner. i'm an honorably discharged veteran who earned an expert marksmanship medal when i was in the service. i'm also the parent of a son murdered on the south side of the city of chicago. and i am a pastor of a church. i'm here to support h.r. 308, the large capacity ammunition feeding device act, which i have been a co-sponsor of since march of last year. there are 264,194 a.r.-15 rifles, manufactured each year in the u.s., and of those, 5,443 are exported overseas, and 248,
friend and colleague, care lynn mccarthy. close the gun show loophole. for starters, things that n.r.a. members agree with. let's care as much about real guns as we do about toy gun consumer protection. to start us down the road of making our children safer by treating children's gun safety like their auto safety. all the air bags, anti-drunk driving campaigns, child seats, driver education, careful licensing, it slashed the accident rate but it didn't eliminate them altogether. we can't imagine a world without these protections for our families. let's see if we can imagine a world where our children are safer from gun violence. and then make it happen. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the chair recognizes the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. murphy, for five minutes. mr. murphy: madam speaker, i rise today with a heavy heart, to honor petty officer nicholas , a person who sacrificed his life in the most honorable of ways, to protect and save the life of another human being. his life was a testament to the core values of the united states navy, honor, courage and commitme
is sketchy. in fact, it is was the n.r.a. and other gun rights movement have scared congress into passing rules into keeping data. we do know for sure. some estimates put it at 40% of guns by unlicensed sellers. but nobody really knows. we know the number of background checks performed. we don't know the rest. guest: we don't have a registry of gun owners and, in fact, the rules are opposite. the rules are so strict that the f.b.i. can't keep data on its gun checks more than 24 hours. they have to purge their data every day and that includes data of people who have been prohibited from buying guns. there is other perverse things in the law. if you are on the terrorist watch list and prohibited from flying you are not in the instant check system, you are not prohibited from buying a gun unless you follow in one of those categories. host: if the f.b.i. has to purge within 24 hours, could somebody buy a gun every three days, two three days or so? are there limits on how many guns you can buyin a year? guest: there is not a federal limit. you can buy a dozen guns or two dozen guns, you can bu
the political will. we have to be able to stand up to the n.r.a., which has been silent in the face of this tragedy and other organizations that have blocked us from doing what we know in our hearts is the right thing to do. it is our responsibility as congresswoman clarke said to do what we must to protect our children and our other citizens. president obama has set up a task force, which will be headed by vice president joe biden. he is calling on us to ban military-style assault weapons to ensure that background checks are there for all gun purchases and to make access to mental health services at least as easy as to -- as it is to access guns. i would hope we would not seen the partisanship that we are seeing right now in the so-called fiscal cliff issue and that we will work with our vice president and president to truly memorialize the children that are being laid to rest this week and not have them be martyrs to our inaction. i would love to yield to our congressman from louisiana and i'm sure that he will add a lot to this discussion. i talked about the fact that african ame
afraid of the nra, if they were to stand up and do what's right for the american public, we would all be a lot better off. host: mayor michael bloomberg yesterday. our question for you is whether gun laws should change? the wall street journal as the deadline-- -- headline -- now allison from trenton on our independent line. caller: 1 question to be answered is whether or not anybody can put forth a good reason for people to have these guns. give me an example of a time when it has come in handy, or it's been a great thing, where it has worked to the benefit of someone or group of people. why are they needed? if someone can give a positive answer about that, then maybe i would think that the assault weapons are needed. otherwise, i cannot see reason for it. i'm against gun ownership in terms of having assault weapons. if you have to have one to protect yourself and home, that's one thing. but rifles that are used for war to have as an everyday weapon makes no sense. host: on twitter -- and here's the new york times -- let's hear from paul in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, a republican. cal
for you. guest: the nra will have to speak for itself. i never understood why if you buy a gun at a gun show there should be less of a reporting of a background check then if you went into a store. most of this ground would have been there before, there it was after columbine or the cafeteria in texas. the texas incident is a tragic one. there was a woman that had a gun. she was going into the cafeteria and have begun with her. -- and she had it with her. she decided to leave it in her car. 10 minutes later, a gunman showed up and she has lived with guilt her entire life. if she had her gun, she could of taking him out within a few seconds. we have to look at the world as it is. the firearms are not going away. host: john fund, "national review," thank you for your time. >> on wed.'s washington journal, a discussion on mental-health issues. representative tim murphy of pennsylvania and grace napolitano of california. francisco negron gives his perspective on how school boards are developing and implementing emergency plans. later, we hear from the editor of the atlantic. he will talk ab
show loopholes. host: what percentage of gun sales are from licensed dealers? guest: the nra and others have scared congress into passing all kinds of rules against keeping data. we do not know for sure. some estimates put it at 40% of guns are sold by unlicensed sellers, 60% through federally licensed dealers. nobody really knows. we know the number of background checks performed, the number of dealers, but we do not know the rest. host: legal curbs said to hamper, in "the new york times." guest: we do not have a registry of guns. we do not have a registry of gun owners. the rules are the opposite. the fbi cannot keep data on its gun checks for more than 24 hours. since we purchased it at every single day. that includes state of people who'd been prohibited from buying guns. the watch list and prohibited from flying, door not necessarily prohibited from buying a gun. there are a lot of very odd things in the way we keep data. host: the fbi has to purge within 24 hours. could somebody buy a gun every two or three days? guest: in most states, there are no limits at all. you could buy as
of action both democrats and republicans. host: why is that? guest: n.r.a. says we have the right to bear arms and we shouldn't limit that right in any way. if anything, as you know, there have been comments in the last few days that encourage more americans, to carry guns. we need to refute that and stand up. and one thing is this terrible tragedy has done for those of us who have always thought we should do more to make sure we are safe and children are safe and for those who have not stood up, you know what, we need to stand up and ensure our children are safer and we need to do something to make sure that dangerous guns don't get in the hands of criminals or those who are mentally ill. host: is that your message to red state democrats? guest: it's to everyone. let's do something. we have seen it so many times. there would be one crime where we would give it a longer sentence and stand up immediately to make sure we would keep people safe because something horrendous happened. why are we not doing that when we see one horrendous tragedy, multiple students. we have seen it in movie thea
think about roosevelt having the wpa, the nra, the conservation program for boys that were taken out of homes and shipped to another state. they finished high school, but the mothers got $35 per month for sacrificing their sons. the w. pay -- wpa paid $12.50 per week if you had a shovel. years later i thought that that was so nice of roosevelt that he did this, and then i thought -- where did he get the money to do that? host: thank you for the call. let's take a look at the c-span facebook page. you can see how our viewers and listeners are weighing in so far. we asked -- what are you willing to give up? so far the most answers have come in for charitable giving. tied below that is the mortgage interest deduction. also the deduction from sponsored health insurance. so far most respondents have said -- none of the above. mike sent this week -- host: kurt, you are next. what would you be willing to give up? caller: i think we need to go down a whole different road and completely revamped the tax code, simplify it and make it a flat tax. if you are at a poverty level, up to 150% of pov
background checks for anyone purchasing a gun, a proposal supported by 74% of n.r.a. members and 96% of all americans. we must outlaw assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips. these are weapons of mass destruction, made for the military battlefields, not our neighborhoods. and it is time to grieve. it is time to act. to end the gun violence before we lose more of our precious children and loved ones. and i yield back. mr. murphy: thank you, mr. speaker. at this point i'd yield a minute and half to the gentlelady from nork, mrs. mccarthy. the speaker pro tempore: zwrealt is recognized. -- the gentlelady is recognized. mr. mccarthy: thank you, mr. speaker. and -- mrs. mccarthy: thank you, mr. speaker. and i want to thank my colleague. i know what you're going through, i know what your district is going through, and i want you to know that the people of the united states of america are saying their prayers for all of your constituents and certainly for the children. i rise in support of h.r. -- resolution 833. as someone whose family has been a victim of gun violence, my heart goes o
with depression. i've always worked in social work. they could have as much influence as athe nra. host: you are nodding your head about that. guest: i beg to differ with you on that. they are part of my task force which meets every other week with about 40 other professionals from schools and psychologists. we work on the different issues. host: what is their mission? guest: to work on the mental health issue. they did not exert as much of their influence where they could or should. i think that is a stigma and that they are not as well organized in outreach and be able to get out to the different areas that are needed. i know them very well and they are wonderful people. there are wonderful organizations that need to work with them. they are effective. we need to work at the local levels at the schools, where children were working at the -- they can begin to spot some of these disorders and talk to the parents and to try to solve them at the early ages. that is one thing that one group does. they provide grants and scholarships to put on site clinicians to help these youngsters, educate th
was taken from the epa and given to the nra. there is no fiscal cliff. there was another so-called fiscal cliff in 2008. give money to the billionaires and banks. when eisenhower took office, he gutted the military. taxes were 9% on corporations. 10 trillion dollars being horded. the problem lies and propaganda. 90% of all our information from the tv and the radio comes out of the state of texas and new york city. that is wall street. there is an economy based on military bases and nafta and oil. that is clear channel radio. time warner comes out georgia. up on the east coast, new york city is for the bankers are and insurance companies and derivatives and the jews that run the media. host: i will stop you on that point. this is from jan. some of you sharing your thoughts on our facebook page as well. one person writes -- host: join us honor twitter page or on our facebook page. rick from charlotte, north carolina. caller: good morning, america and steve. this is a great time to be an american. i think we are all looking forward to the new year. i am a loyal but nervous. -- i am a little
your home. this is an area where unfortunately the political debate, and you bring in the nra, is so removed from the basic common sense of most americans who understand that if you are responsible, careful, and you are not disturbed, you should be allowed to have weapons that are appropriate. our society is a wash with weapons. different states have different laws. it is not that hard to go to virginia from connecticut, by a weapon and bring it back. of course you are violating a law, but if we do not have that discussion, we have this incredibly disappointing and disheartening grief of -- outpouring of grief followed by no action. host: in "the washington post" we have this online he says -- do you think battle lines are being drawn, as to how democrats and republicans are going to respond to this in the new year? well, it is not just democrats and republicans. this is a debate where democratic people believe there should be no more gun control laws. to some extent, kathy is right, the laws are there. they were here in the state of connecticut. the assault weapon was not legal in t
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